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CORRESPONDENCE THREAD
From: "Boersma, Ian (Heritage)" <Ian.Boersma@heritage.tas.gov.au>
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2017 03:46:48 +0000
To: Ray Norman 7250 <raynorman7250@bigpond.com>
Subject: RE: Extension of time for representation [ representation to DA0590/2016 ]
Dear Mr Norman,
I appreciate that your representation was not adversarial but rather urged good planning outcomes for the site, which indeed I hope will be the outcome of any development that is realised at this site. However, I am bound to follow the established protocols for the release of information, regardless of the persuasions of the persons making the request.
Please be assured that your representation was made available to the Heritage Council and was considered, along with all others that were accepted by LCC as having been submitted within the allocated period, prior to the Heritage Council decision being made. As to the level of consideration given to the content of your representation, or that of others, by individual Heritage Council members, that is not a matter on which I am able to judge or comment on. It is the Councillors’ individual responsibility to be as informed as they need to be in order to make the statutory decisions that their role requires of them.
Yours sincerely,
Ian Boersma
Works Manager I HERITAGE TASMANIA I 'Protecting Tasmania's Historic Environment'
Department of Primary Industries, Parks, Water and Environment (DPIPWE)
53 St John Street, LAUNCESTON 7250 I GPO Box 618, Hobart 7001 I www.heritage.tas.gov.au <http://www.heritage.tas.gov.au>
mob. 0429 979 586 I tel. 6777 2073 or 1300 850 332 (for the cost of a local call)
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Message
From: Ray Norman 7250 [mailto:raynorman7250@bigpond.com]
Sent: Friday, 6 January 2017 2:02 PM
To: Boersma, Ian (Heritage) <Ian.Boersma@heritage.tas.gov.au>
Cc: Groom, Matthew (DPaC) <Matthew.Groom@dpac.tas.gov.au>; Peter Gutwein {Treasurer & Minister Local Govt.} <peter.gutwein@parliament.tas.gov.au>; Ashley Brook <Ashley.Brook@ghd.com>; Catherine Mainsbridge <Catherine.Mainsbridge@launceston.tas.gov.au>; Richard Jamieson <Richard.Jamieson@launceston.tas.gov.au>; Prof. Bill Boyd <William.Boyd@scu.edu.au>
Subject: RE: Extension of time for representation [ representation to DA0590/2016 ]
Dear Mr. Boersma,
Thank you for the advice you have provided by email yesterday. However, I must confessed to being somewhat confused and bemused, given the Heritage Council’s role/s, in regard to the need for, and the purpose of, the opacity in evidence here. It’s all the more perplexing given what I understand to be at stake in the context of the layerings of ‘ownerships and interests’ the community has invested in this ‘place’s’ histories and heritage.
In regard to this matter I have no wish to be adversarial, nor stall the development, as that would be counterproductive. You will see that I have put in some some effort to ensure transparency for my part. Indeed, all I have to say about the matter is available to whoever online – see http://chsmithbuilding7250.blogspot.com.au/
The process from the vantage point that I’m observing it from has all the hallmarks of an exercise in Machiavellian convolution and it begs the question, to what purpose? It is especially perplexing given that I can make an RTI request in the context of an accelerated and accelerating timeline albeit for no productive purpose.
The issues I raise in my representation are carefully considered and the result of research undertaken over a long period. It is of some interest to me to know and understand the context within which the representation was received and considered. Based on the press report it would appear that it may not have been considered, and if it was, only in the most cursory way.
It appears that representers, community advocates, et al are assumed to lack the expertise required to make a meaningful contribution to ‘good outcome’ by virtue of them not being being ‘part of the system’. To the extent that this is the case decision making in the heritage arena is ever likely to be contested and contentious which is truly counterproductive in the context of mindful 21st C placemaking and placescaping in a cultural cum heritage context.
Regards,
Ray Norman
Sent: Friday, 6 January 2017 2:02 PM
To: Boersma, Ian (Heritage) <Ian.Boersma@heritage.tas.gov.au>
Cc: Groom, Matthew (DPaC) <Matthew.Groom@dpac.tas.gov.au>; Peter Gutwein {Treasurer & Minister Local Govt.} <peter.gutwein@parliament.tas.gov.au>; Ashley Brook <Ashley.Brook@ghd.com>; Catherine Mainsbridge <Catherine.Mainsbridge@launceston.tas.gov.au>; Richard Jamieson <Richard.Jamieson@launceston.tas.gov.au>; Prof. Bill Boyd <William.Boyd@scu.edu.au>
Subject: RE: Extension of time for representation [ representation to DA0590/2016 ]
Dear Mr. Boersma,
Thank you for the advice you have provided by email yesterday. However, I must confessed to being somewhat confused and bemused, given the Heritage Council’s role/s, in regard to the need for, and the purpose of, the opacity in evidence here. It’s all the more perplexing given what I understand to be at stake in the context of the layerings of ‘ownerships and interests’ the community has invested in this ‘place’s’ histories and heritage.
In regard to this matter I have no wish to be adversarial, nor stall the development, as that would be counterproductive. You will see that I have put in some some effort to ensure transparency for my part. Indeed, all I have to say about the matter is available to whoever online – see http://chsmithbuilding7250.blogspot.com.au/
The process from the vantage point that I’m observing it from has all the hallmarks of an exercise in Machiavellian convolution and it begs the question, to what purpose? It is especially perplexing given that I can make an RTI request in the context of an accelerated and accelerating timeline albeit for no productive purpose.
The issues I raise in my representation are carefully considered and the result of research undertaken over a long period. It is of some interest to me to know and understand the context within which the representation was received and considered. Based on the press report it would appear that it may not have been considered, and if it was, only in the most cursory way.
It appears that representers, community advocates, et al are assumed to lack the expertise required to make a meaningful contribution to ‘good outcome’ by virtue of them not being being ‘part of the system’. To the extent that this is the case decision making in the heritage arena is ever likely to be contested and contentious which is truly counterproductive in the context of mindful 21st C placemaking and placescaping in a cultural cum heritage context.
Regards,
Ray Norman
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From: "Boersma, Ian (Heritage)" <Ian.Boersma@heritage.tas.gov.au>
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2017 03:28:54 +0000
To: Ray Norman 7250 <raynorman7250@bigpond.com>
Cc: Ashley Brook <Ashley.Brook@ghd.com>, Catherine Mainsbridge <Catherine.Mainsbridge@launceston.tas.gov.au>, Richard Jamieson <Richard.Jamieson@launceston.tas.gov.au>
Subject: RE: Extension of time for representation [ representation to DA0590/2016 ]
Dear Mr Noman,
In relation to your request, I am able to advise:
(a) The Tasmanian Heritage Council (THC) would not normally release to the public a report of its decision and any comments to the planning authority before the final determination (in this case by the planning authority) has been made.
(b) A 'Right to Information' request could be lodged seeking access to the THC decision and officer's assessment /recommendation. However, it is common practice not to release reports by officers of Heritage Tasmania, and in any event they would not be released until the final determination has been made.
(c) The officer's assessment / recommendation would be provided to any party to an appeal of the determination, whether it was an appeal against the planning authority or Tasmanian Heritage Council's decision.
(d) The THC's decision will be published following ratification of the December meeting minutes, in February 2017.
Yours sincerely,
Ian Boersma
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Sent: Thursday, 29 December 2016 8:30 AM
To: Richard Jamieson <Richard.Jamieson@launceston.tas.gov.au>
Cc: Ray Norman 7250 <raynorman7250@bigpond.com>; Ashley Brook <Ashley.Brook@ghd.com>; Catherine Mainsbridge <Catherine.Mainsbridge@launceston.tas.gov.au>
Subject: Re: Extension of time for representation [ representation to DA0590/2016 ]
Richard, et al,
I am on vacation this week but will give Ray's request consideration when I return to the office next week. There is an officer assessment and recommendation of which I was the principal author. Representations were all available to the THC despite the short timeframes. Minutes of the meeting will not yet be ready and unlikely to be released until adopted at the next meeting, in February.
Regards
Ian Boersma
Heritage Tasmania
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Hi Ray
To: Richard Jamieson <Richard.Jamieson@launceston.tas.gov.au>
Cc: Ray Norman 7250 <raynorman7250@bigpond.com>; Ashley Brook <Ashley.Brook@ghd.com>; Catherine Mainsbridge <Catherine.Mainsbridge@launceston.tas.gov.au>
Subject: Re: Extension of time for representation [ representation to DA0590/2016 ]
Richard, et al,
I am on vacation this week but will give Ray's request consideration when I return to the office next week. There is an officer assessment and recommendation of which I was the principal author. Representations were all available to the THC despite the short timeframes. Minutes of the meeting will not yet be ready and unlikely to be released until adopted at the next meeting, in February.
Regards
Ian Boersma
Heritage Tasmania
Sent from my iPhone
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On 29/12/2016, at 7:45 AM, "Richard Jamieson" <Richard.Jamieson@launceston.tas.gov.au> wrote:Hi Ray
Normally council only get the decision from the Heritage Council. This can be provided to you and will form part of the report to Council.
I am unsure of what other documents were prepared by Heritage Tasmania as part of the decision, or whether they would be available. I have however copied in Ian Boersma to this email and perhaps Ian you could let Ray know?
Best wishes
Richard
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Richard
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Heritage Tasmania
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From: Richard Jamieson <Richard.Jamieson@launceston.tas.gov.au>
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2016 07:17:22 +0000
To: Ray Norman 7250 <raynorman7250@bigpond.com>
Subject: Automatic reply: Extension of time for representation [ representation to DA0590/2016 ]
I am currently out of the office and will return on 9th January 2017. For all urgent inquiries please contact Carolyn Bezemer on 6323 3301 and she will direct you to the appropriate person.
I will respond to all e-mail recieved when i return to work
Regards
Richard JamiesonManager Planning ServicesDec 24
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Season’s Greetings Richard,
Thank you for your letter acknowledging the receipt of my representation in regard to this Development Application. I note via the press that the Heritage Council has approved the application and it appears that it has done so in quick-smart-time. Given that it has I’m presuming, rightly or wrongly, that they will have supplied Council with a report of their decision along with comments. Is this the case?
If there is such a report when will it be made public and by what means? In your letter to me you indicate that I can request a copy of your report and advice to Council. I do so now, and I ask when I might reasonably expect to receive it?
Regards,
Ray
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From: Richard Jamieson <Richard.Jamieson@launceston.tas.gov.au>
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 21:48:05 +0000
To: Ray Norman 7250 <raynorman7250@bigpond.com>
Subject: RE: Extension of time for representation
Thanks Ray
Received well and good
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From: Ray Norman 7250 [mailto:raynorman7250@bigpond.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2016 7:06 AM
To: Richard Jamieson; Contact Us
Subject: Re: Extension of time for representation
Good morning Richard,
Please find attached my representation as arranged. Also, please note that there is an online version of the representation that can be accessed via this URL http://chsmithbuilding7250.blogspot.com.au/
Thank you for your cooperation in regard to this matter it is very much appreciated.
Regards,
Ray
Ray Norman<zingHOUSEunlimited>The lifestyle design enterprise and research network
From: Ray Norman 7250 [mailto:raynorman7250@bigpond.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2016 7:06 AM
To: Richard Jamieson; Contact Us
Subject: Re: Extension of time for representation
Good morning Richard,
Please find attached my representation as arranged. Also, please note that there is an online version of the representation that can be accessed via this URL http://chsmithbuilding7250.blogspot.com.au/
Thank you for your cooperation in regard to this matter it is very much appreciated.
Regards,
Ray
Ray Norman<zingHOUSEunlimited>The lifestyle design enterprise and research network
PH: 03-6334 2176
EMAIL 1: raynorman7250@bigpond.com
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On 20/12/2016 4:58 pm, "Richard Jamieson" <Richard.Jamieson@launceston.tas.gov.au> wrote:
HI Ray
Thank you for contacting me about this matter.
Under Section 57(5) of the Land Use Planning and Approvals Act I have extended the time for you to make a representation to DA0590/2016 until 10.00am on Wednesday 21st December 2016.
Please forward the representation by email to contactus@launceston.tas.gov.au
I would be obliged if you could CC me in on your representation
Best Wishes
Richard Jamieson I Manager Planning Services I Launceston City Council
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